They said it would be for wormholes. What use would jump bridging be in wormholes? Besides, there's nothing stopping you from fitting an Improved Cloak like a blackops.

I think we all expected that it wouldn't be a true covert-ops battleship.

So we've seen all the posts on how the Nestor should be.

Here's how the SoE battleship will be:

Gallente Battleship:
+100% bonus per level to whinging about how much drones suck and blasters can't hit anything

Caldari Battleship:
+100% bonus to whinging about how much missiles suck these days

Armarr Battleship:
+100% bonus per level to levels of whinging about how much lasers use too much cap and suck so much compared to blasters

Minmatar Battleship:
+100% bonus per level to whinging about how the vagabond is no longer the most powerful HAC.

Role bonus:
+1000% to "look, I spent too much isk on a bling battleship, please gank me!" factor.

drones are perfectly fine in WH space vs sleepers. Sleepers tend to target ECM ships, target painters, high dps and drones in that order. I use an ishtar with gardes in c3 space with no problem - i lose one every 20 sites or so.

It's not the drones that make the Nestor unusable in WH space, it's the shininess. This is what will happen in my corp if one is seen on d-scan:

Scout: "Nestor on d-scan, not in POS"
FC: "OMFG! CALL EVERYONE, I DON'T CARE IF THEY'RE ASLEEP, CTA! 2Billion on the killboard coming up, Wooooo!"

Ya know what, I think we're going about this all wrong. Everybody is trying to make this ship more coherent and useful. I think we should all just brainstorm role bonuses that we could keep adding to the hull without ever making it OP. Let's make it the hull of a 100 nearly useless bonuses. The less useful the better.

Like....

-50% cap usage of salvagers.
+50% target painter falloff.
+10 to drone sensor strength.
25% increase to firework rate of fire.
Can Fit Snowball De-melter.

Yeah it sort of spins its wheels and gets nowhere compared to the Domi.

You have a laser range bonus but no bonus to drone range so you need omnis and scope rigs to get the drones up there with the turrets if you fit beams. However even when you do that, the raw targeting range is not up to scratch and if you fill the mids with omnis there is no room for a sebo. Alternatively you can fit pulse but then you have an issue with tank cos even with the bonus resist there are not enough lows to get damage mods for both the lasers and the drones while also having enough tank to fight at scorch range.

In the end by juggling you can probably get a boat with similiar drone range and DPS as the Domi but at 10 times the cost and needing twice the skills.

It's not really a serious drone contender ... but when you consider the noise being made by GSF about drones being "overpowered" in big fleet battles did anyone really expect a Domi on steroids ?????

Basically this ship is a huge success. Made the vast majority agree on something.. that it is UGLY as hell

hahahahahahahahahah
its an exploration battleship, not a venture

That's not entirely fair since he did make a change based on the feedback. It's just not as much as we would have liked. And to the miscilaneous bonuses, I think it's funny. Who knows maybe someone will see them and come up with a great idea. Creativity is a collision of ideas no matter how weird or far out. It's how you sift through it and impliment that matters.

Here is my suggestion to make this ship worth the money it will cost. Key pointa are
1. ability to fit and utilize bastion module
2. 7/7/7 layout to keep Gnosis and Stratios line (6/6/6 and 5/5/5 layouts)
3. bigger cargo hold: Gnosis has biggest cargo among battlecruisers, Stratios - among cruisers, why should Nestor has it smaller, than Gnosis has?
4. Bigger PWG, though this is not that crucial.

NESTOR

Amarr Battleship Bonuses:
4% Armor resistances per level

Gallente Battleship Bonuses:
10% drone damage and hitpoints per level

Role bonuses:
70% reduction in Micro Jump Drive reactivation delay
Able to switch to deployed mode (Bastion mode)
50% bonus to large energy turret optimal range
37% increased strength for scan probes


Slot layout: 7H, 7M, 7L; 5 turrets, 0 launchers
Fittings: 12250 PWG, 680 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull): 8900 / 9950 / 9900
Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / cap/s) : 6200 / 1044 / 5.9
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 92 / .18 / 56000000 / 13.97
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 125 / 500
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 75km / 85 / 7
Sensor strength: 24 Magnetometric
Signature radius: 465
Cargo Capacity:900

What is this spoused to be good at? 100% bonus to remote armor repairer range 8400mx2=16800m. This is less range than a navitas with a small remote armor repper! 16.8km is a sad joke. 84km would be more like a "logi BS" 1000% not 100%.

Please let this be the time I am completly wrong about the numbers here.

Well it looks like we already have a nickname for it!

But to add to the above statements on lasers, yes: it needs more powergrid and possibly capacitor if it's supposed to be a viable laser ship. And without a damage bonus, it won't be unbalanced (although even if it did get one, it'd make sense with the price)!

Seriously, if it is designed to use lasers and drones, it should be able to use them both. This ship is like some sort of battleship-carrier hybrid- and it'll cost much more than a carrier, so it should really be worth it to use it.

I want a usable blender- a ship this cool deserves to be able to function better!

(and I'm still hoping for +15 virus strength and/or +2 warp core strength )